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primroseburrows ([personal profile] primroseburrows) wrote2006-05-30 07:22 pm
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ZOMG, not a DEVIL BABY!


The sad thing is? In the US, she'd probably get her way.


ETA: Happy 34th birthday to Manny Ramirez!

[personal profile] moony 2006-05-30 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude? I'd be ALL FOR IT. Srsly. My kid would have the best birthday ever and NOBODY would fuck with her.

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[personal profile] moonlight69 2006-05-30 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, I'd be a bit nervous if my kid was due on 6-6-06, and I'm not even Christian. *shrugs*
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you know that the number of the Beast has been changed? Apparently now it's 616, not 666.



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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Mayhap it is, I do not know.

[identity profile] february-sea.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I hear you--on all counts.

It's spook-inducing, to be sure. Perhaps if she's lucky, it'll also be pre-June 6th-birth inducing. Or post-June 6. Either way would be fine with her, I'm sure.

*shrugs along with you*
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
It's just appalling to me that an induction of labour can be done for ANY non-medical reason. I've seen consequences of it first hand, and I don't know why it's legal.

Maybe she'll be born on my birthday, 5 June! Added bonus: it's Draco's birthday, as well. :)

[identity profile] february-sea.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
:) June fifth would be a lucky day, indeed. For both reasons. *loves*

[identity profile] diamond-dust06.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe she should have been a little more careful with the dates she chooses to fuck.

[identity profile] tapped-trish.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
That's totally unfair, what if she were raped and chose to have the baby? Or had been trying for a very very long time and just happened to succeed that one time. And to be perfectly honest, I would never know my due date until a doctor's visit, I just would assume about nine months but that's why I am not a medical professional. I guess that just makes me ignorant in your book.
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you. Babies come when they come. My gripe is that induction for non-medical reasons is dangerous on a lot of levels. I've seen a baby almost die from it first-hand.
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
Here's a handy due date calculator. It's cool because it takes into account that not all women have 28-day cycles. Really, all you need is a calculator, though, and you can figure it out yourself.
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Not everyone gets pregnant on purpose, though, y'know?

It's the fact that she could get an induction in this country that pisses me off, anyway, not her superstitions.

[identity profile] inmemoriam.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
superstition and childbirth. *slaps forehead*
where did she get her license to parent?



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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
There are actually some really cool superstitions around birth. One is that a baby born in the caul (born with an intact amniotic sac)will be have special powers or gifts. Not many babies are born that way anymore, what with artificial rupture of the membranes during birth, internal monitors, caesarean sections, etc. It's a v. cool superstition, though.

[identity profile] inmemoriam.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
oh indeed, mythology is one of my specialties and i adore the oral traditions passed from generation to generation. in my doula-ing i was trained to support the labouring woman no matter what her beliefs.

i think, though, that when a parent cannot tell the difference between superstition and "clear and present danger" (and if the medical profession, moreover, is prepared to support that lack of distinction) there are significant problems afoot. i realize, though, how subjective i'm being in terms of what *I* believe to be clear and present danger as opposed to what others believe to be clear and present danger...

i'll go back to my books now where there is surer footing for this wee lass!! :D

HEY -- doug and i wish to send our condolences to you and your boston baseball people. i'm sure they'll rebound -- it's the way of all things.
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
Our pitching is just Not On right now, mostly. And we keep stranding men on base. But eh. We're (tied, dammit, with THEM) for first place. *sigh* Where's Louis Tiant when you need him?

[identity profile] jlm1779.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
*shakes head* of all the ridiculous things.
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
At least the hospital's being sensible about it.

People are crazy sometimes.

[identity profile] tapped-trish.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I guess this is just another issue that you and I will never agree on, then again I think that the only thing we do agree on most of the time is how incredible your oldest male son is, and sometimes that can depend on the exact moment you catch me.
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
You don't need to agree with me. All sorts of studies are out there to prove it, and I've really seen a baby almost die from it. It was a very scary situation.

[identity profile] inkandalchemy.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Oh. Good heavens. *beats head repeatedly on desk* How many babies are going to be born on that day? Are ALL of them going to be evil/the Antichrist? If you're that worried about it, have the poor child baptized at birth, don't bloody induce labor just to avoid the date. *resists urge to smite woman with her Clue-by-Four*
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
I do like what the hospital people said: "There is little we can do to change them without a Caesarean or inducing the child, which we try to avoid,' the spokesman said. "We must let nature take its course. The baby will be born when ready, no matter what day it is.'"

Most American hospitals wouldn't have, IMO.

[identity profile] inkandalchemy.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Aye, I more than suspect you're right.

Bleh. *makes face*
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
*sigh*

Oh, and icon LOVE!

[identity profile] inkandalchemy.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Bwahaha. I thought you might like that one. XD
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention that most babies aren't born on their due dates. I was, oddly. *g*

[identity profile] inkandalchemy.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I was precisely 15 minutes early. *laughs* They told my mum January 25th and I was born 11:45 p.m on the nose on the 24th.

[identity profile] robinhoo.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
*beats head against wall*

You know, in Orthodox Jewish synagogues, boys who aren't old enough for bar mitzvah aren't allowed to read the Song of Songs. I think Christian churches -- Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox, all of 'em -- should institute some kind of restrictive policy about apocalyptic literature like Revelation and Daniel. Like, you can't read it if YOU'RE A COMPLETE IDIOT. *scowl*
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Is there a theological test for idiocy?

[identity profile] forgodestiny.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Would I be terribly out of line, as a pastor's daughter, if I offered the non-religious idea of "if you're religious, you're an idiot"?
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm more like, "if you want to risk your baby's life for superstition, you're an idiot."

I'm not dogmatically religous (I don't know any Unitarians who are, actually), but I know puite a few religious people who'd never try something this stupid. And the fact that there are "professionals" who WOULD give her what she wants is even worse.
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
YOu do have a point, though. People do a lot of really stupid (and sometimes horrible) things in the name of their god of choice.

[identity profile] forgodestiny.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
*shrugs a little* Like I said, I'm a pastor's daughter. This I know firsthand.

[identity profile] aphephobia.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
How ridiculous. :/

I know someone who was induced because her due date was April 1. A bit silly, IMHO. *sighs*
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
More than silly, it can be downright dangerous.

[identity profile] phoenixw.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
That's a bit surprising, that she'd want to take a chance at an extended labor and delivery. Why not just schedule a caesarian? ;-)

Actually, I just recently heard a story on NPR about women choosing to schedule caesarian delivery. They work with the doctor, do the ultrasound thing to make sure the baby is fully 'cooked' and then they go for it. The story covered pros and cons for the women making this kind of choice. I wouldn't call myself an advocate, but it was interesting.

And yeah. Intelligence testing should be required for drivers licensing and spouting Bible quotes from questionable sources. ;-)
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
I would suppose if the baby was 'cooked', vaginal birth would be the safer way to do things (better for baby's lungs, and the fact that C-sections are major abdominal surgery, with all THOSE risks). The problem is, they get it wrong a lot.

When I was pregnant with [livejournal.com profile] mr_t00by, I had FOUR u/s and an amniocentesis (to determine 'lung maturity'). The amnio was what sent me into labour (which isn't uncommon). It was three days past my due date, so I wasn't worried. The results came back (after he'd already been born)that his lungs weren't ready, which was entirely false because he was breathing just fine and there were no respiratory complications. In this case he was 'cooked'(all 9 lbs. 9 oz. of him) despite the test results.

The problem with working against nature like that is that nature is usually way smarter than science. IMO, messing with mother nature is a tricky thing.

HAHA

[identity profile] phredlovesgoats.livejournal.com 2006-06-02 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
wooooow....that made my day!
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Re: HAHA

[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-06-02 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
In a really warped, random way, hopefully. :)

[identity profile] magicwoman.livejournal.com 2006-06-02 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Wishing you a very happy early birthday!

Susan
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2006-06-02 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! :)