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And now, the final episode of the U.S. Democratic Primary Race, starring Hillary Clinton as the Fat Lady.

Thank every god in the universe, it's finally over.

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Date: 2008-06-03 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karabou.livejournal.com
Jebus, it's about TIME.

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Date: 2008-06-03 07:48 pm (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (DT: time is a face on the water)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
Dude. It was about time months ago.

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Date: 2008-06-03 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vsee.livejournal.com
My reaction, as it has been since JANUARY is: why the fuck are we still having to TALK ABOUT THIS. *g* I didn't used to have much of an opinion about Clinton, but now I am completely disgusted by how the campaign went.

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Date: 2008-06-03 08:04 pm (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (DC)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
I really used to like her, actually, until she sold out on the war and then started trying to ride her husband's coattails into the White House.

I like Obama a lot. It took me a while to warm to him, but it looks like he means what he says and wants to make a real difference. And he's being compared to Trudeau and Kennedy, and that's good company, yessir.

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Date: 2008-06-03 07:53 pm (UTC)
ext_14817: (Hangs around in bars?)
From: [identity profile] meresy.livejournal.com
This just in: your election system is redonkulous.

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Date: 2008-06-03 08:13 pm (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (SA: gtpoint)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
Gee, you really think so?

I'm filing your bulletin under 'News Flashes from Captain Obvious'. Already in the file are shocking revelations such as:

  • Snow is cold.
  • Sky is blue.
  • Dubya is a moron.
  • Canada is really big.
  • Bill Gates is ridiculously wealthy.
  • Paul Gross is pretty.

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Date: 2008-06-03 08:19 pm (UTC)
ext_14817: (Flags)
From: [identity profile] meresy.livejournal.com
My grasp of the obvious was always exemplary. *g*

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Date: 2008-06-03 09:21 pm (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (dS: martha)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
My grasp of the obvious is intermittent. True.

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Date: 2008-06-03 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] newleaf31.livejournal.com
AMEN OMG. Way to make people actively hate you, Hillary.

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Date: 2008-06-03 08:14 pm (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (typing)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
SO mote it be, dudes.

Also, power trip much, Hillary?

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Date: 2008-06-03 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] newleaf31.livejournal.com
Word. She's been remarkably arrogant through the whole process thus far, IMO. It's seemed (to me anyway) as if she and Bill just assumed they were still so powerful in the Democratic party that everything would just fall their way. I liked Bill Clinton, I thought he did some very good things for the country while he was in office, and he's done a ton of worthwhile social-justice-oriented work since leaving office. But I'm proud of my party of choice for proving that the Clintons don't have a monopoly on the Democratic party.

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Date: 2008-06-03 09:23 pm (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (group w)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
You don't think Obama would actually pick her for his running mate, do you? SUCH a bad idea, given her recent behaviour.

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Date: 2008-06-03 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] newleaf31.livejournal.com
OMG PLEASE God, NO. What a nightmare.

I honestly don't think he will pick her. It's a sticky situation, because she stayed in long enough to polarize the party in the extreme, such that her supporters are as fanatical as... well, as I am for Obama. I know that, if Clinton had won the nomination, I would've had to think really long and hard and really force myself to vote in November for her, because I revile her. I'm sure a bunch of her supporters feel the same about him, but he needs their votes. And Obama kind of can't pick another woman for veep without it looking like a giant slap in the face to Clinton.

I just don't know who he'll pick for a running mate. There's a lot of talk that it'll be Jim Webb, the junior senator from Virginia. That would be interesting. Webb's about as bullish as they come, he's the only senator with a child currently serving in Iraq, and he has lots of military experience himself. But he, like Obama, is very liberal, and relatively inexperienced (he never held any major state office in VA). Of course, if it's Webb, Virginia will surely swing Democratic in November, which would fill me with giddy glee. I like Webb, but then I am an unrepentant flaming liberal.

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Date: 2008-06-03 10:21 pm (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (nibbles woodaway)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
In my little fantasy world the ticket would be Obama - Chafee. I admire Lincoln Chafee so much it isn't even funny.

It won't happen, of course, because Chafee's not a Democrat, but still. I can dream.

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Date: 2008-06-03 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] newleaf31.livejournal.com
Well, Obama's been quite vocal about wanting a cabinet that was strongly bipartisan, a la Abraham Lincoln's, which included people from the other side of politics. I haven't heard Chafee's name kicked around yet, but it's not an impossibility. And even if he doesn't ask him to run on the ticket, he could very well invite him to be in the cabinet!

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Date: 2008-06-03 10:44 pm (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (DC)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
Chafee's not in office at the moment, which would also be a factor. But hey, a president's elected for four years, so who knows? :)

Chafee is made entirely of awesome. I haven't read his book yet, but it's way up there on my To Do list.
Edited Date: 2008-06-03 10:45 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-06-04 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacey.livejournal.com
Chafee is a Democrat in all but name.

From Wikipedia:

He was the only Republican senator to have expressed support for same-sex marriage.

Chafee was one of the three Republican Senators to oppose the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, voting with the Senate Democrats.

He was one of the few Republicans to vote against allowing drilling in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge

On November 17, 2005 he was the only Republican to vote in favor of reinstating the top federal income tax rate of 39.6% on upper-income payers.

Chafee was the only Republican in the Senate to have voted against authorization of the use of force in Iraq.

In November 2006, immediately following the midterm elections, Chafee joined key Democrats in opposing President Bush's renomination of John Bolton as United States Ambassador to the United Nations.

On June 27, 2006, Chafee was one of only three Republicans to vote against the proposed Flag Desecration Amendment.

In 2003, Chafee bucked his party and voted against the Medicare Part D prescription drug benefit.

Chafee was the only Republican to oppose President George W. Bush's nomination of Samuel Alito to the United States Supreme Court.

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Date: 2008-06-04 12:38 am (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (nibbles woodaway)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
He's an Independent. He may have Democrat ideologies, but from everything I know from thirty years of admiring the guy, he's fiercely independent and I doubt he'd join an established party again without a really, really good reason.

Before he left the party I always said that Chafee and Joe Lieberman were sitting in each other's chairs in the Senate. :D But really, now that he's left the Republicans, I can't see him ever going back to party politics. On the dome of the RI State House is a statue of the Independant Man, and Chafee's considered by many to be a representative of that spirit (except he probably wouldn't walk around in a loincloth carrying a spear).
Edited Date: 2008-06-04 12:39 am (UTC)

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Date: 2008-06-03 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldritchhobbit.livejournal.com
She totally missed her first bizillion cues to start singing, didn't she? Way to make yourself popular, Hillary.

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Date: 2008-06-03 10:22 pm (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (group w)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
She more ignored them than missed them. :/

Oh, and I got your email. Some of those days are entirely doable and I'll be replying tonight or tomorrow.

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Date: 2008-06-04 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldritchhobbit.livejournal.com
She more ignored them than missed them. :/


So true! :(

Some of those days are entirely doable

Oh yay! I'm so glad! Thanks so much for putting up with my schedule. Is Friday the better option, do you think? I apologize for the hassle - it's just that if I need to reschedule my Friday meeting, I probably ought to do that today.

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Date: 2008-06-05 06:54 am (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (johnyoko)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
Actually, Tuesday or Thursday would be best for me. I could do Monday, too, but I'll be working Sunday night and would be completely exhausted.

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Date: 2008-06-05 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldritchhobbit.livejournal.com
Oh, Tuesday would be perfect! Are you coming to the tour? (We're meeting at the Van Wickle gates at the corners of College Street and Prospect Street at 2pm.) If so, maybe we could go on from there once the tour is over? Or if not, maybe sometime that afternoon would work for you?

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Date: 2008-06-05 02:11 pm (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (hello cthulhu)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
I'd love to go on the tour! Definitely sounds like a plan. :)

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Date: 2008-06-05 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldritchhobbit.livejournal.com
Wonderful! I'll email you my cell number, just so you know how to get in touch with me if any questions/changes come up. Thanks SO much! :)

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Date: 2008-06-04 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacey.livejournal.com
Stick to your guns, Hil! You won the popular vote! The people want you! Don't give up so easily! You're a Clinton! You've been running for president all your life - you can't quit now when you're so close! Take it to the convention! Fight for it, girl!

*giggles gleefully*

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Date: 2008-06-04 12:42 am (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (Helen)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
Apparently she's not 'officially' conceding anything but that Obama has enough delegates. She wants to be his running mate, and I desperately hope this does not happen. Especially because of what she said about Bobby Kennedy.

Grr. I gotta go to work and I don't wanna.

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Date: 2008-06-04 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melpemone.livejournal.com
The lurkers support her in email, you know. *giggles*

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Date: 2008-06-04 05:17 am (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (group w)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
What lurkers, where?

Seriously, if it were the other way around and my candidate didn't win, I'd still be glad it's over.

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Date: 2008-06-05 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicwoman.livejournal.com
Stopping by to wish you a very happy birthday!

Susan

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Date: 2008-06-05 02:12 pm (UTC)
ext_3190: Red icon with logo "I drink Nozz-a-la- Cola" in cursive. (curtsmile)
From: [identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com
Aww, thanks! *hugs*

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