...just when I thought it was safe to go back in the water

[primroseburrows]

Apparently some of the Bush-era asshats stayed around after their Leader left the scene, as evidenced by

Exhibit A (for asshat):

and Exhibit B (for, I dunno, something horribly, terribly insulting that begins with B):

There isn't a word for how furious both of these asshats make me. Because holy shit. These guys make Ann Coulter seem tame (I couldn't even finish watching the second one. I mean, I'm nauseated enough today).

If this is supposed to be comedy, it's not even close to being funny. It's disrespectful and hurtful and just plain MEAN.


(links from maggiesox and mcollinknight)

Comments

[peacey.livejournal.com]

Please point out where in the video anyone made any demeaning, derogatory, or disparaging remark specifically about the sacrifice made by these "four guys." In fact, a couple of the panelists made the point that they respect anyone who serves in the military. If they HAD made any disparaging remarks about these men, I'd be the first to join you on the outrage bandwagon. Admittedly, there were certainly puerile aspects to the clip, but you have to consider the source. These are, once again, comedians. Some will consider them funny, some won't, but with the world in the state that it's in today, to take offense at something a comedian says seems a huge waste of perfectly good outrage.

[primroseburrows.livejournal.com]

I don't know, I consider this kind of 'comedians' in the same category as people who make jokes about the Holocaust. Does making fun of soldiers in harm's way get a pass because it's all done in fun?

Also, as others have been saying, what if the positions were reversed and Canadian 'comedians' were mocking US troops? It wouldn't be about 'taking offense' to me, it would be utterly unconscionable. I don't see a difference, which is why I'm outraged.

[peacey.livejournal.com]

...what if the positions were reversed and Canadian 'comedians' were mocking US troops?

I'd agree that either way it's unconscionable, but their words reflect their own ignorance, and I don't have to say, do, or feel anything for that to happen. Tell me which is more threatening to a comedian who is obviously courting attention by making such inflammatory remarks, a room full of boos or a room full of menacing silence? To me, one gives him something to play off of, increasing his moment in the limelight, while the other leaves him sputtering, backing slowly to the shadows he crawled from.

[primroseburrows.livejournal.com]

Tell me which is more threatening to a comedian who is obviously courting attention by making such inflammatory remarks, a room full of boos or a room full of menacing silence? To me, one gives him something to play off of, increasing his moment in the limelight, while the other leaves him sputtering, backing slowly to the shadows he crawled from.

True, but if everyone kept silent every time something offensive was said, the world would be in bigger trouble than it's in already.

And anyway, I don't think we're really on opposing ends here, since both of us support the guy's right to say what he's saying. And to respond (or not) is up to the individual. Stuff like this pisses me off, and I rant, because I can't NOT.

[peacey.livejournal.com]

True, but if everyone kept silent every time something offensive was said, the world would be in bigger trouble than it's in already.

Agreed, and I'm not saying that's how it should be. Each situation is different and should be met with a response appropriate to it to best make your point (a skill I've not perfected yet, so I'm not preaching from the perfection pulpit). As you indicated in one replay somewhere, some people are looking to stir the pot, others are just looking to vent.

And yeah, though our opinions of specific things may differ, we're on the same page on the overall. Which is kinda cool, cuz isn't intelligent, nonemotional dissension and discussion so much win?!?!

[primroseburrows.livejournal.com]

Which is kinda cool, cuz isn't intelligent, nonemotional dissension and discussion so much win?!?!

Yeah, and even if I didn't think so, the First Amendment sez I can say it. :D :D :D