...just when I thought it was safe to go back in the water

[primroseburrows]

Apparently some of the Bush-era asshats stayed around after their Leader left the scene, as evidenced by

Exhibit A (for asshat):

and Exhibit B (for, I dunno, something horribly, terribly insulting that begins with B):

There isn't a word for how furious both of these asshats make me. Because holy shit. These guys make Ann Coulter seem tame (I couldn't even finish watching the second one. I mean, I'm nauseated enough today).

If this is supposed to be comedy, it's not even close to being funny. It's disrespectful and hurtful and just plain MEAN.


(links from maggiesox and mcollinknight)

Comments

[meresy.livejournal.com]

What, it's a free speech issue now?

Please. Free speech =/= free from consequence. In fact, being free from the consequences of public speech is the antithesis of that value.

So, being offended is an indicator that free speech is working. I'll agree, but the corollary is I can tell the offender they're full of shit.

I don't agree with the implication I'm getting that since it's inevitable we will offend someone we should take nothing from it when people say we've got our heads up our asses. I'd err on the side of not poking people, but then again I don't sytle myself as a comedienne.

[peacey.livejournal.com]

Free speech =/= free from consequence.

Agreed. Never claimed such wasn't the case, and never would. You say something, you'd better be prepared for what comes next.

I'll agree, but the corollary is I can tell the offender they're full of shit.

Absofreakinglutely you can. And I'd go down with the ship for your right to.

...that since it's inevitable we will offend someone we should take nothing from it when people say we've got our heads up our asses.

I never indicated that either, and never would. If you offend someone, and they call you on it, you can either take it to heart and alter your behavior, or you could adapt the attitude displayed in your icon. It's an individual choice, and I'd never deem that it should be one or the other.

[meresy.livejournal.com]

Okay so... what was your objection to people finding that clip offensive? Because this:

but with the world in the state that it's in today, to take offense at something a comedian says seems a huge waste of perfectly good outrage.

(Even with the qualifying addendum) read to me like people were being silly in finding him to be an asshat? Or was it just the size/scope of the reaction?

[peacey.livejournal.com]

We're talking about two different things here, a reaction to a specific event and an overarcing belief. My reaction to the specific event was geared more to the size/scope facet (as is evidenced in the quote). However, when we're talking about the overall scheme of things, I do not, nor would I ever say anything like, "You cannot find this or this or this offensive because _______." I might exert my opinion and say, "You should not..." But never can not. Make sense?

[primroseburrows.livejournal.com]

If you offend someone, and they call you on it, you can either take it to heart and alter your behavior

And I think that's really the reason behind my post. That and being really pissed off at the utter meanness of this guy. Not that he cares or reads my posts. Hell, he probably feeds on this sort of stuff. :/

[peacey.livejournal.com]

You know, as I juggled all my replies this morning/afternoon, for some reason I kept remembering that you don't watch South Park because you find it too mean. :) Don't know that that has any relevance at all here, but just thought it telling that I love that show and you, umm, don't. :)

[primroseburrows.livejournal.com]

I don't love South Park, but I respect the talent behind it. And yeah, in some places I think they go too far, but in their defence it's obviously satire, and the SP people are far, far more talented than this yokel will ever be. Like Rick Mercer says, there's a REASON the guy is on at three in the morning. It's because he SUCKS.

And this? Is funny:



See? OBVIOUS satire vs. schoolboy bullying.

ETA: And then there's Canada making fun of itself.